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1 Destro  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 11:59:44am

We have a report of what happened in India to Swiss bike tourists that aligns to this article.

2 calochortus  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 4:43:54pm

I wish I could upding this article more than once.

Are there any women out there who haven’t experienced at least the run-up to this sort of thing? The one little step at a time, never really hearing “no”-just taking one more little step at a time to see you home, come in for a glass of water, sit on the couch and chat, just for a minute… And then when called on it, are shocked and hurt that you would accuse them of ill intent.

I (fortunately) always fixed the guy with a firm stare at that point and kicked them out, but it did take a couple of those experiences and chats with friends who had experienced similar things for me to figure out that this was a pretty widespread pattern. I gather things haven’t improved in the last 3 or 4 decades.

Young women need to be warned.

3 Interesting Times  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 4:54:19pm

re: #2 calochortus

Young women need to be warned.

And young men need to be told this is creepy, sleazy, unethical behavior.

4 calochortus  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 6:42:40pm

re: #3 Interesting Times

And young men need to be told this is creepy, sleazy, unethical behavior.

Yes, but I imagine most of them really know it-otherwise they wouldn’t have perfected the deflection of blame. They might actually be surprised that the young woman is reacting the way she is.

I think we need to stop defining women as “Other”. Of course men and women are different, but it should be seen as in a delightful way, not as alien beings we could never hope to understand, so why bother.

5 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 19, 2013 11:41:59am

There is a certain myth that if he can just “conquer” her she will be his.

Somehow the idea that forced sex will produce an orgasm in the women so fantastically mind-blowing that it will make the ends justify the means.

I actually had this happen in college once. The guy was shocked SHOCKED that I never wanted to see him again.

6 Interesting Times  Tue, Mar 19, 2013 12:17:48pm

re: #5 FemNaziBitch

There is a certain myth that if he can just “conquer” her she will be his.

Somehow the idea that forced sex will produce an orgasm in the women so fantastically mind-blowing that it will make the ends justify the means.

…which is reinforced in just about every “romance” novel out there :/ (*cough* 50 shades *cough*)

That doesn’t mean I don’t believe there’s a place for consensual role-playing scenarios. But for those to work, there needs to be an “out”, e.g. the red-yellow-green safeword system:

Some partners may also have different gradations of safewords, such as green to mean “Okay” or even “harder” or “more”, yellow to mean “slow down” or “stop doing that” without stopping the scene, and red to mean “stop the scene”. In this fashion, a dominant partner may ask the submissive partner “What is your color?” to check with a submissive partner without having to stop the scene.

Come to think of it, if everyone respected and abided by this system, “gray rape” and other such “misunderstandings” would immediately cease to exist (and sorry to hear you to go through such a thing yourself…it happens far too much)

7 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Mar 19, 2013 3:23:00pm

re: #6 Interesting Times

…which is reinforced in just about every “romance” novel out there :/ (*cough* 50 shades *cough*)

That doesn’t mean I don’t believe there’s a place for consensual role-playing scenarios. But for those to work, there needs to be an “out”, e.g. the red-yellow-green safeword system:

Come to think of it, if everyone respected and abided by this system, “gray rape” and other such “misunderstandings” would immediately cease to exist (and sorry to hear you to go through such a thing yourself…it happens far too much)

Yeah, romance novels and porn movies.

Just what we need for our young people.

/gah!


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